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Jessyi · Oct 10, 2009, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Drugs are for complete assholes.

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up. That's what you call an "objective fact".

Drugs are a way to alter your perception of reality. If you prefer a drug-induced fantasy over actual reality, that's a sign that you've got problems which I can't guess at and are somewhat outside the scope of this thread.

Go ahead and rationalize your choice to me, but don't think I won't know you're only trying to convince yourself.

Short · Oct 10, 2009, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Fallen

Unbelievable. Do you not get it?

It doesn't matter if it's their life or not; drugs is not an excuse for anything.

They can use it as an excuse for anything if they want to. It is their life. Life doesn't make sense, so why should excuses in life make sense?

own age myname · Oct 10, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

So you're saying that the use of DRUGS is okay to use as a scapegoat when you've had a bad childhood/abusive parents/ect? Wow... WTB reality...

~LeNa~

No, I'm not. I'm just saying don't judge people that do drugs. I'd like to see you forget and live a happy life when your drunken dad is beating you. They already have low willpower from the beatings, so they resort to drugs to forget it.

Accursed · Oct 10, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Point being, what?

If your going to be a dumbass in this conversation, then I'm out. I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't 'get' what I'm saying every five minutes.

Cracko · Oct 10, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Jessyi

Drugs are for complete assholes.

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up. That's what you call an "objective fact".

Drugs are a way to alter your perception of reality. If you prefer a drug-induced fantasy over actual reality, that's a sign that you've got problems which I can't guess at and are somewhat outside the scope of this thread.

Go ahead and rationalize your choice to me, but don't think I won't know you're only trying to convince yourself.

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Cracko · Oct 10, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by Fallen

Point being, what?

If your going to be a dumbass in this conversation, then I'm out. I'm not going to argue with someone who doesn't 'get' what I'm saying every five minutes.

i mean what is the point of stating that drugs is not an excuse for anything, it is not the point of the discussion we have here.

jonnieboi05 · Oct 10, 2009, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Cracko

noone said using drugs is good, but if people WANT to use it as a scapegoat then who am i to say they cant?

it's called freedom.

Maybe 'cause it's called "illegal" ?

Also, do not double post. If you wish to add something more then click edit and insert what you wish to say.

~LeNa~

Crimso · Oct 10, 2009, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Cracko

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

BlackSephir · Oct 10, 2009, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by Jessyi

Unless you were born on crack, or somebody tied you down and shoved blunts down your throat/injected you with heroin/whatever then at some point you made a choice and f---ed up.

So just because someone used drugs on himself means he RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up in life? And you call that a fact?
Oh wow.

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Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted?

What is someone does drugs and he's not avoiding his responsibility, is a normal working human being?
Oh, I guess people like that don't exist.

Red Apple · Oct 10, 2009, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by Cracko

if people WANT to alter their perception of reality, why not let them? why are they complete assholes if they choose that way of living?

Because this is a fantasy game, you are discussing this in a GAME-RELATED Board, what does drugs have to do with the game in first place?

Cracko · Oct 10, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

Maybe 'cause it's called "illegal" ?

~LeNa~

I live in a country where you are free to use drugs.

Short · Oct 10, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Crimso

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

Whoever said everything you have to do needs to help make you a "productive member of society". In fact, who says you need to be a "productive member of society".

Accursed · Oct 10, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Cracko

i mean what is the point of stating that drugs is not an excuse for anything, it is not the point of the discussion we have here.

Because it is. Drugs is not an excuse for usage, and it never will be.

BlackSephir · Oct 10, 2009, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Fallen

Because it is. Drugs is not an excuse for usage, and it never will be.

People need excuses what to do with their money, free time and um, LIFE?

Deviant Angel · Oct 10, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

Close please.

This.

There's no point in staying with a guild if you feel uncomfortable. Not much else to discuss... there never was, it's pretty much common sense.

wilderness · Oct 10, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Crimso

Because they end up avoiding the reality of society and their resposibilities as they get more addicted? Therefore becoming unproductive member of society trying to get more drugs at any cost.

I love the assumption that everyone who's ever used the harder stuff is automatically a morally barren pit of molten debauchery.

Many successful business men and women today were a part of the 60s drug binge, and they've grown respectable and efficient families and careers.

Alcohol can cause addiction and ruin lives even more easily as it's a taxable commodity. The hypocrisy of this situation is galling, especially when people hark on about the 'objective facts'.